Is Elon wrong about LiDAR?
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In the world of autonomous vehicles, lidar sensors are the center of debate. Self-driving car companies, like Cruise and Waymo, use lidar as the key ingredient to advance their autonomous vehicle navigation while skeptics, like Elon Musk, claim it to be useless. Transportation editor, Andrew Hawkins, explores the landscape of both and why exactly lidar continues to be at the forefront of complete autonomous driving. #technology #cars #lidar
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How ”self–driving” do you want your self-driving car to be?
What happened to this channel??? It’s not as good as it used to be!
Brought to you by Luminar 😂 So transparent…
LiDAR is a dead end especially due to limitations of distance limited, weather influences a lot, data generated need to be filtered a lot of unnecessary raw data bandwidth, pass through limitations it requires straight clear line to the objects etc….
Personally my only problem with self driving cars is security mainly the cars that have all the sensors and lasers on the vehicle it’s a gold mine for criminals looking for a quick buck 😅😅😂😂
This is going to look very silly very soon.
Factually incorrect.
Crash investigations involving a Tesla, has always resulted in FSD NOT being activated at the time.
With my commute times, and no train options, a driverless vehicle would get me back 20 hours a week in at least reading or working on my hobbies
Nice video on the status of Autonomous driving! I was just hoping to hear something about Mercedes as well who are the only car maker to offer level 3 autonomous driving on some streets, which means handing the responsibility to the car (maker) instead of the driver. Really impressive development from their side
Wait a sec “robotaxi companies aren’t selling cars to people” … didn’t Elon promise robotaxi capabilities in 2019?
Of the whole spectrum of light, why limit your self to the visible spectrum
Great series!
Even if all cars became completely autonomous, three generations later there will be teens who see self-driving as so commonplace and want to be able to manually drive them again. Everything old becomes new again.
Typical Verge bashing Elon
Tesla only have level 2 sertified systems. That is an drive assist, nothing more. Self driving starts at level 3, as per its definition.
“FSD” is misleading. MB its he first company that have an level 3 car u can buy. Includes Lidar and a bunch of other sensors.
Teslaˋs system has been at level 2 (in BETA) since its first release in 2015.
It should be miles per crash/fatality.….not how many.
What isn’t Elon wrong about?
LiDAR doesn’t work in the rain or snow. It’s basically worthless
ofc he is wrong.
WE NEED LIDAR.
during FOG however good camera AI you train it will fail, only LiDAR will be able to save it.
Not to mention Visual AI can still make errors in identifying objects, for example if you wear a type of camouflage clothes, it will not detect you, which means it can cause accidents for such clothes/vehicles wrapped in such way, so in such cases LiDAR is the only thing that can save the day, not to mention the distance measurement is quite accurate with LiDAR as supposed to just Cameras.
Yeah, Tesla need the sauce!
Her Verge — how many crashes PER MILE between the two companies and technologies — 100% shady reporting. Might upset some of that sweet GM and Ford advertising revenue if you actually reported the facts? It’s almost like you are getting paid to report on Tesla- because very single article and video is the Verge bashing Elon and Tesla. So obvious.
This channel is dead, I wonder why?
Truly awful journalism.
Factually incorrect.
Bad stats comparisons.
I dont like Tesla but their computer version is simple, cheap and more aerodynamic.
Of course Elon was wrong. Anyone in the industry (or outside of it for that matter) knows this. It was simply a cost saving measure and at this point he’s too stubborn to say that he was wrong. A vision only based system is simply not robust enough as a standalone system for this type of purpose.
fundamental misunderstanding on all fronts. Why even make this video?
I believe In the future we will have flying cars, we just won’t drive them
I can save you 7 minutes, Elon is always wrong.
I think EM ditched LiDAR because it cut into his profit margin and more important to EM he doesn’t like the cosmetic look of LiDAR equipped cars. EM is about trying to create a expensive status symbol with high profit margins.
How about doing some actual number digging. Tesla has billions of road miles. Straight away that makes them safer if you’re measuring accidents / road miles. Though a truer stat would be to get Tesla road miles and accidents that are actually autopilot related.
Really you need to understand AI though. More training is always going to beat more sensors in the end.
Plus those sensor arrays look .. bad…
They intentionally do not say how many miles Teslas have driven. This 1 million miles for cruise is laughable, since Tesla has more incidents but has trillions of miles driven.
I think the video misses the grander vision of tesla of having quantity of self driving cars so they can form a network and communicate within the network hence eliminating the need for any additional sensors
I’d rather have better public transit than self-driving taxis.
Of course we need self-driving cars….there are too many distracted drivers on the road these days…..every single one of them is looking at their cell phones.
If you want to gave good review about slow driving cars. You need to go to China at least.
He’s wrong about a lot of things. Including “free speech”.
And of course you did not mention occlusion of LiDAR in harsh environments. It becomes useless in rain, snow and fog.
What was not mentioned ( fatalities) in the Tesla Accidents as to how many million miles driven by tesla , also not mentioned that for lidar only you need to be geofenced and not able to drive all over
Can lidar cuase cancer
Cameras are not the issue. The problem is the brain. I can record a video with one camera and then show it to a human which will be able to drive using that onr camera video without a problem. It’s all about the brain
Misleading video. Autopilot ≠ FSD Beta.
you’re afraid to say “laser is the sauce” now? You’re so weird. This is such a Californian thing. You self aware nazel gazing idiots
I want you to disclose if you own stock in either of these companies.
Sample size and sampling location is important. Tesla autopilot beta is everywhere, Waymo is in two cities. Number of miles driven by Teslas »»» Waymo. The RATE of incidents thus is very very important. You are purposely deceptive because you have a BIAS against Elon Musk. That’s it.
As a computer scientist, I believe that more data is better than less data. The data provided by cameras and the data provided by LiDAR is different and neither product gives the “full” picture, making these two technologies complementary instead of redundant.
Initially, Elon was against LiDAR due to the cost, size, and aesthetics of the equipment. During the past decade, the technology has shrunk in size and cost so to the point where they live on our iPhones, so I’m not sure why Elon still opposes the technology in 2023.
Perhaps if Elon spent less time jerking himself off on Twitter and more time reevaluating technology trends and waking up to the fact that Waymo is leaving them in the dust, then maybe Tesla can experience some forward movement again and keep the promise of FSD that Elon has been pedaling as only 18 months away for the past 10 years.
I had a horrible experience with Teslas autopilot and cruise control, staggering amount of phantom breaking events in just two weeks. And this was on perfect roads and conditions. Tesla need to change their strategy.
I thought Elon was pretty clear that LIDAR was also being removed because it was too low resolution and interfered too much with what the cameras could see and caused conflicts with decision making. Now that higher resolution radar tech is becoming available I thought they were adding that back in.
ok, you are stupid
Cameras are higher def than lidar.
Get back to me when these lidar cars drive faster than 35 miles an hour.