Passkeys might really kill passwords | The Vergecast
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Today on the flagship podcast of video podcasts: The Verge’s David Pierce chats with 1Password’s Anna Pobletts about good password hygiene, passkeys, and the upsides of a third-party password manager. Victoria Song joins the show to discuss the state of wearables and why this may be the year for the smart ring. Later, David answers a question from The Vergecast Hotline. #Podcast #Technology
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0:00 — Intro
01:54 — Passkeys w/ 1Password’s Anna Pobletts
30:57 — Wearables w/Victoria Song
56:47 — Vergecast Hotline
Further reading:
1Password rolls out public passkey support to its mobile apps and web extensions:
Fossil is quitting smartwatches:
This might be the year of the smart ring:
Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not:
Here’s how much the Vision Pro’s accessories cost:
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Can you add timestamps for the last episode
I really don’t understand why you put the podcasts here too. I like to have my topics and channels separated. For example the wsj channel is full of uninteresting videos (for me at least) and I always miss Joanas Videos because I don’t want to clog my inbox with the whole wsj Channel. :-/
Hi David, nice face. Ignore the haters. 😂
@Bitwarden WAKE UP!! where is native device support for passkeys
10 minutes in and you still haven’t explained what exactly passkeys are and how they work…
I want to understand the decision process for this and who thought this was a good idea. You have a video into and you had parts of the Podcast where we can see everyone in their studio talking, this makes sense, this is adding to just listen to each one talking. Why for heavens sake, do a video intro and then, put a static background and continue with audio only. This does not make any sense at all
Cool video 👍🏿
You should do this, and you can do that, but you should also do this, but if you do that you should also do this other thing, and backups should be made, but in another thing over here .….yup very clear now
Any chance of adding chapters to the Vergecast? I know there’s timestamps but chapters are nice and efficient and would just make listening easier in the car (I like to skip topics I don’t enjoy with my steering controls)
(I mean on Podcast players, I know the video here has chapters but apps like Overcast and Apple Podcasts support chapters and The Verge doesn’t add the chapters there)
i use what i call a ‘personal hash’, basically i have a secret hashing algorithm that just crypts the name of the website into a password, not sure what the security community would say about this, but it works for me
What price do I think will send headsets mainstream? Sub-400 USD.
I think this is a new and experimental form factor that a lot of people are and will continue to be Leary of — especially while goodwill towards apple is beginning to wane and the lay-person’s indulgence budget runs dry.
But maybe I’m just more frugal than your average consumer.
Most phones can now track your steps, elevation, acceleration, speed and live location…which is more than enough for most people (easily enough for me) and barely touches your battery. I use my iPhone for steps and a £60 fitness Polar band for sport and that’s it. If you are tracking sleep, you are a loser lol 🙂
“for your safety” argument never is what it says, its just corporate double speak. Thanks, but no thanks.
I’ve been listening to this for 10 minutes, and you still haven’t said anything. Sure, you’ve repeated over and over that passwords are bad, but you still haven’t explained what a passkey is or why it’s better. I’m not waiting any longer. I have other things to do that wait for you to get to the point.
Passkeys doesnt work in my country yet. Greece. I tap to sign in to my goggle account for example and i choose passkeys but nothing happens.
It was a nice surprise to see David’s face.
I had no idea the podcasts were on another channel. I just thought it ended years ago.
OMG, an hour of nothing said. But marketing talk. Blah blah blah. Get to the point
To go from a video intro to no video on a YouTube video is really strange and jarring. If you’re going to post on YouTube, you really should do the whole thing as video.
Please don’t move long-form video podcasts to the same channel as medium-form tech videos. I’d want to keep subscribed.
I have the Flipper Zero that is a tool I use in my IT world. One feature it has that is useful is a built-in YubiKey. I use it for my most important accounts.
Passwords can be in your head, this must have two physical objects
Do passkeys work with multiple users on the same device, without separate local device accounts (shared iPad, shared computer—single local account).
It’s a good idea to bring the Vergecast to the main channel but this audio-only version doesn’t work great for Youtube. Was enjoying it on Pocketcasts but was a little confused to see this when I tried switching to video here.
I see that most people are complaining but I like to see the podcast here.
I will believe passkeys are real when you don’t have to hunt for and click a link on the login page to use them.
For $2kUS I can see using a VisionPro 🥽 For many of the NYP 🚅 Northeast Corridor Amtrak Excursions.
i should buy an old ipod
Why the static background when ya’ll also recorded video — as seen in the YouTube Shorts 🥲
Problem with passkeys as I see it is that they’re only as secure as the password/Pin of the devices on which they’re stored or linked to the cloud account on which they’re stored. Right now, if you get into my phone or laptop you have full access to all my accounts that use passkeys, in exactly the same way as you will have access to those accounts protected by passwords as they’re remembered by Google for convenience. The only benefits to passkeys I can see is that they’re unphishable and easier to use than passwords, which is no bad thing but not really a game changer given we already have 2FA to protect against phishing and services such as Google remembers and autofills your passwords for online accounts and apps already.
“easy” “frictionless”. I appreciate it, its greatbut, try enable, bluetooth still bad way to use. QR Code? only if chrome is installed, they dropped support too, not even updare I can.
bruh, thats WIndows + bluetooth + android, expecting it now is just overseeing how bad it will be until it does over LAN
- you could just send a packet to be signed by an app and return otp encrypted with “approve” btn. it works, NOW, without much changes to common setup, secret backup
Re: sleep tracking with a watch vs ring. When Apple first released sleep tracking on the Apple Watch I gave it a try for a few weeks and I just couldn’t get comfortable with a watch on overnight. Then I got the gen 3 Oura ring and I don’t even think about it anymore because it’s so light and hardly interferes with my day or night.
You can’t use passkeys for PayPal universally. For some reason, they’ve decided to only support passkeys on mobile. So you cant retire your password for PayPal.
Definitely agree on the price, David! I wouldn’t pay anymore for a headset than I would a phone. Otherwise I’m going to need a very compelling reason or cool use case to buy it at the price it’s at now.
I’m sorry, but in my opinion, David’s intros are always much too long
I don’t use one password cause I’m tired of paying a subscription for everything. People will use what free and most convenient
I still don’t understand how to set up a passkey. I can’t listen to all this talk about something that I don’t get. I really need an ELI5 here. Where do I go on my iPhone to set this up? What are the requirements and what are the limits?
Great conversation around passkeys! I’m in the technology industry and was completely baffled by some of the simple aspects around them! Really great questions and answers!
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Man i wish i called into this show… i own the avp and can present a compelling case of how its worth every penny of the 3500
As someone who bought a $800 htc Vive in ‘16, I was and am extremely excited about the direction and possibility that Apple brings with the vision. I’m disappointed with the lack of development thus far, but super impressed with the performance. The price was bogus as you agree, Apple had to Apple and blew the budget on features that harm the experience like heavy materials, expensive low benefit screens and more. I think you’re spot on, $1000-$2000 is a great realistic range. I am a bit worried how they will continue to use it as another tool to lock people and families/friends into the Apple ecosystem.