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How Apple lost control of the App Store | The Vergecast

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Every­where you look, antitrust fights have the poten­tial to reshape the tech indus­try. Nilay, David, and The Verge’s Jake Kas­tre­nakes start by dig­ging into the lat­est rul­ing in the Apple / Epic tri­al, in which a furi­ous judge rips open the App Store in a way Apple like­ly nev­er saw com­ing. The way we pay for apps is about to change, and fast. After that, it’s time for an update on the Google and Meta tri­als, as Google tries to pre­serve its search empire and Meta tries to make the case that basi­cal­ly every com­pa­ny on the web is its vicious com­peti­tor. Final­ly, in the light­ning round, it’s time for anoth­er install­ment of Bren­dan Carr is a Dum­my, plus some notes on this week’s World­coin launch and the strange new Meta AI app. Also: par­ty speak­ers. Always par­ty speakers.

0:00 Intro
00:46 Apple’s Legal Troubles
2:10 Par­ty Speak­er Phenomenon
11:01 Apple vs. Epic: The Antitrust Battle
35:56 Patre­on and the Future of Inter­net Transactions
36:15 The Bat­tle Over In-App Purchases
37:12 Apple’s Antitrust Struggles
39:40 Devel­op­er Reac­tions and New Opportunities
41:45 Apple’s Finan­cial Pres­sures and AI Delays
49:37 Epic Games vs. Apple: The Fort­nite Saga
1:02:25 Google’s Antitrust Bat­tle: Sun­dar Pichai’s Testimony
1:11:38 Google’s Influ­ence on Chromi­um Development
1:14:28 The Chaos of Court­room Media Coverage
1:16:27 Meta’s Legal Bat­tle and Tik­Tok’s Role
1:19:38 The Future of Social Media and Mes­sag­ing Apps
1:22:19 Meta’s Antitrust Case and Mar­ket Definition
1:28:54 Bren­dan Carr
1:34:16 World­coin and Eye­ball Scan­ning Technology
1:38:45 Meta’s AI and Adver­tis­ing Vision
1:42:02 Dis­play Tech­nol­o­gy Innovations

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  • @roryradio says:
    05/02/2025 at 10:12 pm

    36:55 Nilay is search­ing for “If you can’t love your­self, how the hell are you going to love some­body else. Can I get an amen?” ‑Rupaul

    Reply
  • @Fartmastaman says:
    05/02/2025 at 10:14 pm

    Nilay, I have a pic­ture of me sit­ting on top of my Sony gtk-xb7 cir­ca 2017 in a col­lege dorm that I will email you.

    Reply
  • @expectationlost says:
    05/02/2025 at 10:38 pm

    Amaz­ing how this Apple App sto­ry isnt on your front page of the site.

    Reply
  • @CR-xx3ur says:
    05/02/2025 at 10:38 pm

    36:53 we’re get­ting rupaul quotes on the cast!!

    Reply
  • @LinusBoman says:
    05/02/2025 at 10:42 pm

    “Tim Apple is cooked” was right there. I can’t tell if I’m proud or dis­ap­point­ed that you left it on the table.

    Reply
  • @ngideo says:
    05/02/2025 at 11:03 pm

    this is the most verge­cast episode of the verge­cast that has ever verged

    Reply
  • @vger2 says:
    05/02/2025 at 11:09 pm

    Phil Schiler for CEO, please. He seems like one of the few remain­ing execs at Apple that still has what we (once) believed was the spir­it of Apple. Human greed ruins every­thing and when they were no longer the love­able under­dog who had (for many of us) a supe­ri­or way of inter­fac­ing with tech, it became a mil­lion­aire-stamp­ing fac­to­ry for those execs with ungod­ly valu­able shares and that spir­it has near­ly died. Maybe some humil­i­ty will revive it.

    Reply
  • @MatthewFling says:
    05/02/2025 at 11:38 pm

    Sam Alt­man: ‘Trust me, I just need to scan your iris to prove you’re human.’
    Me: ‘Cool, and what do I get?’
    Sam: ‘A cryp­to token, a life­time mem­ber­ship to the panop­ti­con, and the priv­i­lege of exist­ing in Web3 with­out being mis­tak­en for a toast­er.
    Me: Hard Pass

    Reply
  • @ngideo says:
    05/02/2025 at 11:51 pm

    Legal, Apple, Gad­gets… this one has it all

    Reply
  • @aldenkeith says:
    05/03/2025 at 12:26 am

    MORE ORBS!

    Reply
  • @dijitek says:
    05/03/2025 at 12:33 am

    @1:00:09 The Slate is basi­cal­ly the same size as the Mav­er­ick if the Mav­er­ick was a 2 door as well.

    Reply
  • @tackyglue says:
    05/03/2025 at 1:00 am

    22:26 scary means dou­ble what it nor­mal­ly means in the design world, lmao.

    Reply
  • @MaxMiller94 says:
    05/03/2025 at 1:08 am

    The most iron­ic out­come that could pos­si­bly hap­pen in the Google case would be if Microsoft ends up buy­ing Chrome. Grant­ed, I don’t think that’s going to hap­pen because it would essen­tial­ly repli­cate the rea­son Microsoft got in antitrust trou­ble 25 years ago.

    Reply
  • @newtypexzerox says:
    05/03/2025 at 1:13 am

    Can you rename “Bren­dan Carr is a Dum­my” to “Bren­dan Carr is a Fas­cist”? Because that’s what he actu­al­ly is, I mean he’s both but fas­cism is his actu­al ide­ol­o­gy and the rea­son why he’ll nev­er come on the show. He’s not a cap­i­tal­ist, he’s not a neolib he is a fas­cist and that is his agenda

    Reply
  • @ch3burashka says:
    05/03/2025 at 1:29 am

    1:34:59 world­coin is sim­ple to explain — it’s beads for the natives.

    Reply
  • @siegfried19888 says:
    05/03/2025 at 1:40 am

    Microsoft bring back win­dows phones

    Reply
  • @burreld says:
    05/03/2025 at 1:56 am

    You could also make the argu­ment that apple only applies 3 per­cent val­ue to the pay­ment and con­ve­nience of using apple for app pay­ment and licensing.

    Reply
  • @burreld says:
    05/03/2025 at 2:55 am

    I hope they don’t get in trou­ble for send­ing maybe clas­si­fied pho­tos. If you do this please, please make sure it’s ok

    Reply
  • @Ressard says:
    05/03/2025 at 3:42 am

    I looooooooooove Jake. just sayin.

    Reply
  • @tomasperalta3609 says:
    05/03/2025 at 4:18 am

    guys please don’t for­get to tip the orb deliv­ery guy

    Reply
  • @kyleh6984 says:
    05/03/2025 at 6:34 am

    Orig­i­nal­ly Steve Jobs want­ed the iPhone to run on Web apps. It was devel­op­ers that demand­ed an ITunes like store for apps. But lat­er on, after the incred­i­ble suc­cess of App Store, devel­op­ers start­ed grip­ing about the size of Apple’s cut. Which is the real issue. Not Apple’s so called monop­oly. If Apple announced a 5% cut instead of 30% at the App Store launch, no one would be com­plain­ing now. Not even Epic.

    Reply
  • @realNaveed says:
    05/03/2025 at 9:18 am

    Love this “Wel­come to Verge­cast” slo­gan from my friend Nilay…

    Reply
  • @WokeupinNYC says:
    05/03/2025 at 9:29 am

    Apple buys Open AI. Sam Alt­man becomes CEO of Apple.

    Reply
  • @anonmityslayer says:
    05/03/2025 at 9:55 am

    EPIC fought lone­ly (they may be bad as well)
    but many app devel­op­er want­ed this apple need­ed to feel the heat as every oth­er com­pa­ny does for such monop­o­lis­tic prac­tices they are not yet done like google and facebook

    Reply
  • @meskin84 says:
    05/03/2025 at 9:59 am

    God­damit I love this show

    Reply
  • @reuelbutler7626 says:
    05/03/2025 at 9:59 am

    I love them two I be laugh­ing so hard

    Reply
  • @CharCharArray says:
    05/03/2025 at 10:51 am

    I’ve often seen par­ty speak­ers besides small food carts out­side con­certs and bars with long entry lines

    Reply
  • @pratikmadrecha says:
    05/03/2025 at 12:10 pm

    When is US vs Apple trial?

    Reply
  • @chadsmo says:
    05/03/2025 at 12:52 pm

    If an app on my iPhone wants me to pay on a web­site and doesn’t give me a choice to do it in app there is no way I’m pay­ing them. The abil­i­ty to go to set­tings and look at all of my sub­scrip­tions and can­cel them all in one place is far too valu­able to me.

    Reply
  • Anonymous says:
    05/03/2025 at 4:50 pm

    bring­ing your par­ty speak­er into the slate truck

    Reply
  • @twoheadedgoat says:
    05/03/2025 at 6:23 pm

    Push this but­ton and Nilay says I love you 6:22

    Reply
  • @Thesebdawg says:
    05/03/2025 at 8:13 pm

    Love the pod­cast, but the amount of ads this show gets on Youtube Music is preposterous 😂

    Reply
  • @norskluna says:
    05/04/2025 at 12:42 am

    Great episode!

    Reply
  • @BenjaminDirgo says:
    05/04/2025 at 2:50 am

    I’m here for the par­ty speak­er investigations

    Reply
  • @hhajajahqh says:
    05/04/2025 at 3:18 am

    God im so hap­py
    These monop­o­lists real­ly had it coming

    Reply
  • @hackthis02 says:
    05/04/2025 at 7:30 am

    Where can I get the wall­pa­per from behind Nilay?

    Reply
  • @RobertoChiaveri says:
    05/04/2025 at 3:26 pm

    How many more Verge read­ers from the EU? Say hi! 👇

    Reply
  • @imoutodaisuki says:
    05/04/2025 at 9:51 pm

    27:47 Yeah. Apple could’ve stayed greedy, just not that greedy, and things might’ve been fine. But they were con­sumed by greed.

    46:30 base­ball, huh?

    Reply
  • @zCrazyeightz says:
    05/05/2025 at 12:08 am

    There’s a guy in my city who rides around our bar scene down­town with his two par­ty speak­ers towed behind him on his bike. He puts them in one of those cad­dies for kids. He’s out on Fri­day and Sat­ur­day nights in the warm months. I’ll try to snag a pic of him next weekend.

    Reply
  • @ryry2211 says:
    05/05/2025 at 9:03 pm

    the RuPaul quote about not lov­ing your­self means you can’t love any­one else is crack­ing me up.

    Reply
  • @ryry2211 says:
    05/05/2025 at 9:15 pm

    I ful­ly agree with Apple about in-app pur­chas­es from a pri­va­cy, fraud, and uni­fied pur­chas­ing hub per­spec­tive. ESPECIALLY in regards to less-tech savvy, old­er adults. I had to unin­stall no joke HUNDREDS of junk game apps from my grand­ma’s phone after she died. I real­ly wor­ry about the impact of this rul­ing on old­er adults and scams.

    Reply
  • @mocutobi says:
    05/06/2025 at 12:29 am

    PLEASE DO A FEATURE ON JUBILEE!!!

    Reply
  • @Arick_Lee says:
    05/06/2025 at 7:57 am

    Oh yeah..they are every­where the par­ty speak­ers. They even have one with par­ty sync mode that sync mul­ti­ple speakers

    Reply
  • @Arick_Lee says:
    05/06/2025 at 8:02 am

    These are the ghet­to blasters of the 2020’s

    Reply
  • @gc.96 says:
    05/06/2025 at 9:22 pm

    Its crazy that a judge can cre­ate rules and impose them on a tril­lion dol­lars com­pa­ny like this. If I was apple I would con­tin­ue ignor­ing her, this is scary, these judges think they’re gods.

    Reply
  • @Beegpapijimbo says:
    05/10/2025 at 9:35 pm

    Nilay eye­brows be like
    _____ _____
    / > |

    Reply
  • @ninjanerdstudent6937 says:
    05/11/2025 at 2:27 am

    The day the app store died is the same day Tues­day’s app of the week was cancelled.

    Reply
  • @ninjanerdstudent6937 says:
    05/11/2025 at 3:59 am

    1:26:08 — I absolute­ly love it! I remem­ber how fun the inter­net was in the 90s. I would love to go back to that except for the lack of high-speed Inter­net and reli­able VPNs.

    Reply
  • @ninjanerdstudent6937 says:
    05/11/2025 at 4:01 am

    1:27:00 — Also, Apple brought iTunes to Win­dows and was able to sell iPods and lat­er iPhones to Win­dows users.

    Reply
  • @deth3021 says:
    05/12/2025 at 6:11 am

    My guess is that the 27% came from 30 — 3. Where the 3 is kin­da, the top trans­ac­tion pro­cess­ing charges from com­pa­nies like amex.

    Reply

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