The 8mm camera return explained by Kodak CEO Jeff Clarke
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Kodak surprised everyone when it announced an 8mm film camera at this year’s CES. The Verge’s Sean O’Kane talked to Kodak CEO Jeff Clarke about how it works, why JJ Abrams loves it, and why the company is going retro.
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Super 8’s go for 10 bucks.…
Film has the one quality digital will never have as film is a layered and digital is flat. One reason even the most expensive scanners can’t get all the information off film.
Great Stuff
The last of the dinosaurs hanging in there with their finger nails looking to see what fad they can bring out to hook the wannabe hipsters and keep their company go under. Film is yesterdays news its bad for the planet this guy talks about the eco system yet evades mentioning the toxic chemicals that are used to develop the films each time some hipster shoots it. Then he then says they will scan the film and upload it for you to a platform you like haha that bit made me laugh 🙂
very cool they are bringing it back– but would you use this for work? who takes responsibility if you send it in, and the color timer, or whatever lab tech assistant, god forbid even the postman damages the film. probably just have to bite the bullet.
i’d use this for fun, but i don’t know if i’d use it for work where you’ve a client involved.
Hope they do the same for 2x8 (Double 8) and 16mm so we can use our bolex’s and other mechanical 8mm / 16mm camera’s again!
I also see price increases in Super8 film cameras at the moment in stores and secondhand stores.
The ignorance on these boards.….…..
Just get a real one from eBay for a few quid.
Just get a real one from eBay for a few quid.
Long live film.
But the question is how many times will people shoot Indy films on 8mm before going back to digital due to the cost. I hope to see the price in media storage devices go down more with this camera coming out. And I may even get one but I still will shoot 99% of the films on digital just because the price of the cartridge and the transfers
dont really believe that it will work. I suppose that it will be expensive
Very good idea. I would really like to own one myself, but the camera looks more like a toaster then an 8mm camera. My suggestion is; change the look if you wanna sell them. I don’t see myself arrivimg on a set with a white toaster, but I really dig arriving on set with a retro look camera telling my crew; ‑we’re gonna shoot this on film guys..!
IF : (film shoots 15–20 minutes costs 15$ — 20$ Kodak makes a new film reel projector) THEN I’m in, otherwise not interested.
Why bother? It’s a nice novelty but 8mm looks like pure shit. Even SD video looks better.
I bought a Super 8 for 6 bucks. 6 Dollars! Beat that price
What Does 70mm Look Like?
Douglas McLaren, the projectionist for the Music Box Theatre, knows there’s a lot that makes 70mm worth seeing on the big screen. “From an audience standpoint, it’s a much crisper, brighter, and ideally more uniform and stable image,” he explains. Essentially, the difference between 35mm and 70mm is similar to the difference between DVD and Blu-ray, if switching from DVD to Blu-ray also made your television bigger.
The wider, sharper image allows viewers to see, as McLaren puts it, “details in these films that you have just never, ever seen before.” He also points out that most theaters project films at a resolution of about 2,000 pixels, which is comparable to Blu-ray. However, the restoration scan of Lawrence of Arabia was scanned at about [8,000 pixels], “and the negative had even more information than that. There’s just so much more going on in these 70mm prints than even on your Blu-ray.”
https://www.groupon.com/articles/what-is-70mm-film
Once all the hipsters find out that it will cost upwards of $75 to $95 for a fully processed and transferred roll of film; and that each 50 foot roll is only 2.5 minutes (at 24fps) to a bit more than 3 minutes (at 18 fps) of actual runtime — I’m afraid the love for Super 8mm will soon fade and they will be back to using their DSLRs again.
way to go kodak!
i like
When I took film study back in 1978… we did everything with 8 and super 8mm.… I spent two weeks just making my single 10 minute stop action animated project… then sending the film off in the mail… then manually splicing with my editing reel to reel system… then there was VHS… yawn… and NOW there is a world of digital video options that I can see, transpose, splice, edit, tone, save, archive and experiment with… AND view without that angsty Kodak projector.… Go BACK? Um.. no thank you 🙂 I am amazed that they are even thinking of this… we have photo clubs still making wet plate images, but movie making? Why? (‘;’)( ‘;’)
we cant loose touch of the root
Just to be clear on a few points. There are only two ways you are going to get a reel of film back from Kodak. One, is that you shoot reversal, where the film itself becomes its own positive, projectionable media. They process it, and send it to you on a reel. The second, is that if you shoot negative film, Kodak makes a print of the film as a positive for projection.
The first option can’t happen because Kodak stopped producing all color reversal, and only has black and white. People won’t go for that option. So unless they REINTRODUCE color reversal, or possibly repackage that awful 200asa Wittner crap, option one is out.
Option two is possible, but it would be way expensive. Clearly, I don’t see the feature of sending you back a reel of film. No one projects anymore. They want the look and fun of shooting film, but they want to edit and preserve digitally. The camera itself speaks to that in having a digital sound recording feature which would be utilized in digital editing.
I never knew Michael Douglas was the CEO of Kodak!
Popfilter, pls
Don’t mean to be picky, the microphones look nicer without the wind screen, but could you have spent an extra $20 for the foam rubber on a $250 Heil microphone to prevent all the popping?
How will one be able to watch the reel of film at home after the processing and scanning, since the the film they make is a negative film? I see the only 1 B&W and 3 Colour negative emulsions ? Will they give you a copy on duplicate positive film? I highly doubt that.
I want one. This may revive Kodak
Kodak is not about cheap you goons.
When you realize you could’ve saved over 1,000 dollars by purchasing a 2.99 8mm care app on your iPhone…
id rather then do it with 16mm but whatever this is still pretty cool
Super 8mm is too expensive. I shoot 16mm
I got my Kodak XL33 Super 8 movie camera that I’ve got for free at a barn sale and I have not used it before, and thankfully, Kodak still makes Super 8 film cartridges, and I’ll have to get it soon.
Kodak should take a lesson from Ingvar Kamprad (founder of IKEA); some products you can afford to have a close to 0% profit margin on, because you will earn it back elsewhere. If film regardless if it is Super‑8, 16mm, 35, 120Roll or large format gets inexpensive to use and accessible more and more will rediscover it.
where do i buy this
Is there a tripod mount ?
that moment you can buy a old kodak super 8 camera for like $20 and use the new film and you will save tons of money. they should only make the film
Super
we want the camera and the ektachrome already!
So.….. what happened to this?.…. Seems to have never materialized…